Monday, May 1, 2023

Chicago Cubs All-Time Team

We're back with the second half of The Collector's All-Time Teams series. Let's visit historic Wrigley Field in scenic Chicago, Illinois for a look the Cubs' All-Time roster:



Wrigley has hosted six World Series in its storied history, including 2016 when the Cubs broke their century-long curse with a victory over Cleveland.


Charlie Grimm skippered the Cubs to three National League pennants from 1932-1945. Only one man has managed more games for the Northsiders than Grimm has, and it's the first baseman in this All-Time lineup.



No it's not Mark Grace, who has some competition at DH with another first baseman.



Cubs statsWARHRBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Mark Grace44.21480.3080.3860.4450.832122

Anthony Rizzo36.72420.2720.3720.4890.861130

The Cubs are going to need some pop off the bench, so Grimm sticks with Grace and gives Anthony Rizzo a chance to compete with some small-ball stars.

Rizzo's 242 homers as a Cub are more than King Kelly, Billy Herman, Stan Hack, and Kiki Cuyler combined. And there are more high-average, low-power hitters in the mix for Chicago's infield.


Cubs statsWARHRBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

Frank Chance45.9200.2970.3940.3950.789136

*Billy Herman42.0370.3090.3660.4170.782112

Bill Dahlen34.0570.2990.3840.4490.834123

*Stan Hack55.5570.3010.3940.3970.791119


That would be a pretty good infield on its own, but only two can make the team. If Rizzo isn't one of them, perhaps Charlie Grimm can add some power in the outfield.


Cubs statsWARHRBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Jimmy Ryan35.9990.3080.3770.4470.824125

Bill Nicholson38.42050.2720.3680.4710.840136

George Gore28.6240.3150.3860.4340.820151

Herman and Hack are both bumped off the roster; Bill Dahlen earns a spot while Bill Nicholson just misses. The Cubs will carry three first basemen.


On the mound, Chicago has a tough call: keep a Hall of Fame hurler who probably belongs with the Braves, or let him go in favor of a longer-tenured ace with the second-highest pitcher WAR in team history?

Nope, not Greg Maddux; we've established why he's here. John Clarkson pitched the minimum four seasons with this franchise versus five for the Boston Beaneaters(who became the Braves). Is that enough to hold off a charge from "Big Daddy" Rick Reuschel?


Cubs statsWARERAERA+K/BB WHIPstarts

*John Clarkson36.82.391513.201.053199

*Hippo Vaughn40.02.331251.831.169270

Rick Reuschel48.33.501132.141.312343

Jake Arrieta17.93.141293.061.104148


Reuschel might be more 'Cub' than Clarkson but the 19th-century star was undoubtedly more effective.


Grimm gets a chance to improve his bullpen with an overlooked(by me) middle reliever.



SVERAERA+K/BB WHIPGames

*Don Elston643.701061.581.362449

*Carlos Marmol1173.501241.921.329483

*Hector Rondon773.221243.651.127296

Pedro Strop292.881422.871.053413


Don Elston was an All-Star (twice) in 1959, but he can't stop Strop in this competition.



Looking ahead...and not seeing much. There aren't any current Cubs who are on an All-Time trajectory. Maybe Pete Crow-Armstrong will pan out as their next franchise player, but he's just getting his feet wet in double-A. Maybe Cody Bellinger returns to MVP form and sticks around long enough to qualify. Which is more likely? Let me know what you think in comments.

TL; DR: Three changes from the original roster. Herman, Hack, and Elston out. Rizzo, Dahlen, and Strop in. 

 

Come back tomorrow for our next All-Time Team, the Cincinnati Reds.

 

Thanks for reading!




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8 comments:

  1. Wow the middle relief is kind of weak. That surprised me.

    Glad to see Grace stay in the starting lineup. Also glad to see Chance on the roster since you chose Grimm as the manager instead.

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  2. The thought of Pete Crow-Armstrong becoming an all-time Cub after my Mets traded him for 47 games of Javier Báez is not the most comforting one. But I have picked up some nice cards of him, so at least I'll have that.

    When you did the 2019 version, I'd have bet money that by now Kris Bryant would have earned a spot on this team, but 2019 was his last really good season on the north side. Quite a disappointment.

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  3. I don't expect Bellinger to stay after this year, and PCA needs to be up here to see if the hype is justified. Strop and Rondon were very much underrated for their time here.

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  4. Charlie Grimm had 3 different stints with the Cubs, I never knew that. Also the longest consecutive managerial stay with the Cubs is only 7 years. Guess that's what happens when you don't win a title for 108 years.

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  5. If you had told me only three players from the 2016 Championship club would make the team, I would not have guessed two of them were relievers...

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  6. 2016 Cubs remind me a lot of the 1986 Mets. Young powerhouse team that looked like a future dynasty. Barely got by a significantly inferior opponent in the World Series, a sign that they were not the dynasty that they looked like they'd be.

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  7. A no brainer, but always happy to see Fergie Jenkins on a post

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  8. Good to know that the A's won't be alone when it comes to no current players on an all-time trajectory :D

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