Monday, May 15, 2023

Seattle Mariners All-Time Team

Let's head to the Emerald City and visit the only franchise that has never appeared in a World Series. Here's the Seattle Mariners All-Time roster.

 

Seattle is one of the only teams where the all-time stadium is an open competition: do you prefer the Kingdome, the team's home for 22+ years (and site of this legendary moment) or the current park, which they've called home for 23+ years (and site of this record-breaking achievement) ?



There's no question Lou Piniella is Seattle's all-time skipper, although Scott Servais is sneaking up on him.

Lou's lineup looks a little different this time around.




Alex Rodriguez played more years as a Yankees third baseman, but there was such a sharp drop-off from the next-best option that A-Rod had to be here.


Mariners StatsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Yuni. Betancourt3.40.2790.3020.3930.69585

Alex Rodriguez38.10.3090.3740.5610.934138

J.P. Crawford10.90.2520.3360.3570.69397

Yuni's services are no longer needed. Even if Rodriguez stayed in the Bronx, J.P. Crawford now qualifies. Fun fact: Crawford was depicted on the 100,000th card in my collection.

J.P. won't make this roster, but there are some interesting bench battles brewing.




Let's start at catcher, where there aren't any above-average options.


Mariners statsoWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+dWAR

*Dan Wilson9.90.2620.3090.3840.6938011.1

*Mike Zunino7.00.2070.2760.4060.682894.2

Dave Valle8.40.2350.3110.3710.682876.1

And you thought Betancourt was bad. Piniella had Zunino as the bat-first backup, but Valle is the better all-around option. He'll platoon with Wilson - who succeeded him as Seattle's starting catcher in 1994.

Tino Martinez might be a starting-caliber first baseman, but (like Rodriguez) he played longer in New York. He's not getting past Gehrig or Mattingly, or even Joe Pepitone (okay, maybe Pepitone) but he should at least earn a bench spot with the Mariners, right?


Mariners statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+games

*Bruce Bochte10.10.2900.3700.4290.799119681

Tino Martinez7.70.2650.3340.4660.801112543

Richie Sexson5.50.2440.3340.4740.808114509


Numbers don't lie. Tino will get another shot with the Barnstormers, where his career statistics will be compared to other unaffiliated first basemen. 

 

Let's look at Lou's starting rotation:




Mark Langston was actually better in Anaheim, but the Angels' starting staff is deeper even without Nolan Ryan. Piniella has some options, including a current Mariners hurler, to compete with the three-time 'K' king.


Mariners statsWARERAERA+K/BB WHIP


*Hisashi Iwakuma17.03.421113.861.143


*Mark Langston19.24.011071.871.372


Erik Hanson16.83.691112.601.276


James Paxton10.63.421173.661.186


Marco Gonzales8.64.021022.961.266


Marco Gonzales isn't ready yet, and he's got to get that ERA down. If Iwakuma is the #4 starter than based on these numbers the "Big Maple" should be #5. Langston was wild, but he had a higher ceiling than Hanson. He stays. 


Seattle's bullpen isn't star-studded but it is solid.



Arthur Rhodes was on a roster in the original series, just not this roster. He played four more years in Baltimore than he did with Seattle but his numbers were far better as an 'M' than an 'O'.


Mariners statsSVERAERA+K/BB WHIP

*Mike Schooler983.301232.491.294

Arthur Rhodes93.051423.711.049

 
The Barnstormers bullpen loses another arm. School's out.


Looking ahead... Julio Rodriguez has no chance of catching Ken Griffey, Jr. as Seattle's starting center fielder.


He is signed for the next eleventy years at about a kajillion dollars, so he'll certainly stay with the M's long enough to compete with Ibanez and Bradley for a bench spot. Though I keep seeing annoying videos pop up on baseball-reference that tell me he's struggling?

Probably just a sophomore slump and not a case of a guy slacking off after securing the bag


TL; DR
: Three changes from the original roster. Betancourt, Zunino, and Schooler out. Rodriguez (Alex, not Julio), Valle, and Rhodes in.

 

 Come back tomorrow as we wrap up the American League West with the Texas Rangers.

 

Thanks for reading!




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11 comments:

  1. Great choices, and no disrespect to Julio, but I think you're 100% right he'll never replace Griffey, which is ok. Excellent choice of J.J. Putz too ;) And a high five because like you mentioned we both used the '95 ALDS game 5 clip tonight

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  2. I like seeing A-Rod here even though there's a good argument to put him in the Bronx. To me the Kingdome will always be their home, but I'm guessing the new park is probably a nicer experience.

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  3. Four all time greats in the lineup, but a steep dropoff after that. Some good but no great starters. (Well they had one but I guess you have him in Arizona.) Guess that's why they haven't been in a World Series.

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  4. Erik Hanson on an all-time list could explain why this team has never made the WS.

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  5. Ahh, I thought Tino had that bench spot. Alas, just wasn't there long enough.

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  6. Will there be a Barnstormers team post when all the teams are done? Would be interesting to see who is out there.

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  7. In an alternate universe, the Mariners could have ended up with the two greatest designated hitters in history (David Ortiz was originally signed by Seattle). It'd be interesting to see how that roster crunch would have played out. (Edgar at 3rd perhaps?)

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    1. Probably, yeah. Crazy that the let him go. From what I've heard, the big guys like A-Rod and Edgar (maybe Griffey?) saw Ortiz in a minor league HR derby and said he should be in the MLB.

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  8. I'd love to retire in the PNW and attend Mariners games. I wouldn't call them a favorite team, but I usually root for them when they're not playing the A's or Padres. I honestly though they would have a stronger all-time team, but their bench and rotation is kinda thin compared to most rosters.

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  9. I'm with Bo...I was all "Where's Randy? He'd has to be here!"

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