Tuesday, May 23, 2023

San Diego Padres All-Time Team

Our next-to-last stop is a one-team California city that lost both their NFL team and their NBA franchise. Wait, I thought we already went to Oakland?


 
The San Diego Padres nearly left for Washington in 1974. Ten years later, they won their first of two NL pennants.



Bruce Bochy managed the Friars' second NL title-winning club, in 1998. The current Rangers skipper won three World Series rings with the cross-state rival Giants - but he's a distant second in San Fran annals. 

Here's his all-time lineup.




Just two Hall of Famers here - and Winfield played more games with the Yankees. Gonzalez and Giles are quality starters. The middle infield needs work.



Padres statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+games

*Bip Roberts12.50.2980.3610.3870.747106667

*Khalil Greene9.30.2480.3040.4270.73196659

Tim Flannery9.10.2550.3350.3170.65285972

Garry Templeton10.00.2520.2930.3390.632771286


Garry Templeton would be the people's choice but Khalil Greene had much more power. Not to focus on any one stat, but an all-time starter with a 77 OPS+ would be embarrassing. Oh... hi Freddie, didn't see you there. 


There is a shortstop in San Diego who has already produced more offense than any middle infielder in team history. But he's not quite ready yet...




Aside from Nate Colbert, the Padres' best bench options are third basemen. Manny Machado is still an (All-Time) Oriole for now, but he's one of four 'hot corner' stars among the leaders in position player WAR for this franchise.



Padres statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Phil Nevin17.80.2880.3590.5030.862129

*Chase Headley18.20.2630.3440.4050.749111

Manny Machado17.80.2760.3470.4940.841131

Ken Caminiti17.50.2950.3840.5400.924147


Chase Headley might have had the least memorable career of these four, but his 18.2 WAR is sixth in San Diego history. (You know who has the fourth-highest total? Gene Tenace.)



It was very tough to find backup outfielders for this roster in the original series. Juan Soto won't be here for a while - and if he does sign long-term he's almost certainly starter material - but there is a new contender.



Padres statsWARBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+

*Gene Richards19.00.2910.3570.3870.744113

*Will Venable13.30.2520.3160.4100.727105

Wil Myers12.30.2540.3300.4510.781115


The battle of wills goes to Myers. His versatility helps a bit, though Bochy has plenty of other options at Myers' secondary position, first base.


The Padres' rotation needs work. Only their ace and 2007 Cy Young winner Jake Peavy is locked in. 




Not much to work with here, and no new hurlers have qualified. So let's revisit some past Padre pitchers.



Padres statsWARERAERA+K/BB WHIPstarts

*Andy Benes20.83.571092.581.239186

*Andy Ashby22.83.591122.561.246185

*Randy Jones20.73.301041.641.208253

*Eric Show15.93.591011.601.283230

Bruce Hurst15.03.271132.551.181131

Joey Hamilton15.83.831041.861.343142

Ed Whitson16.33.69992.191.229208


Bochy makes a marginal upgrade, swapping Show for Hurst.


The Padres bullpen has some underrated arms building a bridge to Hall of Famer Trevor Hoffman.



Still, it wouldn't hurt to look at other options.



Padres statsSVERAERA+K/BB WHIPgames

*Craig Lefferts643.241142.201.249375

*Luke Gregerson162.881263.291.092363

*Scott Linebrink42.731452.781.147306

*Mark Davis782.751352.181.260230

Craig Stammen53.361204.291.144333

Greg Harris152.951282.251.182194

Kirby Yates562.551615.401.002192


Yates technically qualifies, with three full seasons plus six appearances in the Covid-shortened mini-season. Bochy taps Craig Stammen to replace Craig Lefferts, based primarily on the former Craig's impeccable control.


Looking ahead... Khalil Greene's days as San Diego's all-time starting shortstop are numbered.

 


El Nino is looming.


Jake Cronenworth could be in the mix very soon as well. Machado could certainly switch teams as mentioned, and so could Juan Soto. The Padres currently have three pitchers on other teams' all-time rosters - Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, and Josh Hader. Eventually they're gonna have to grow their own.



TL; DR: Three changes from the original roster. Venable, Show, and Lefferts out. Myers, Hurst, and Stammen in.

 

Come back tomorrow for the final MLB franchise in this series (but not the final roster) the San Francisco Giants.



Thanks for reading!



 

9 comments:

  1. I sit here in tears seeing Luis Torrens get snubbed.
    /joking (mostly)

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  2. Tatis is looming, but he's not playing shortstop anymore--they've moved him to right field. But I suppose no matter how long he stays there, it will make a lot more sense to bump Greene out of the lineup than Giles (the other two outfielders obviously being untouchable).

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  3. Hoping in a few years Darvish, Machado, and Tatis are starters (for the Pads) on the updated team... because that would mean both have very productive seasons ahead of them. I'm also hoping Cronenworth continues to be a big part of the Padres lineup so he can make the roster.

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  4. Nate Colbert should one the all-time team somewhere - he was the team in its first 5 years.

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  5. I would definitely except to see Soto and Machado in there one day. I didn't realize Adrian Gonzalez played five seasons there, I thought it was shorter.

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  6. This is one team which one would expect would change a lot in the next few years. Though the current team could also end up being a big disappointment.

    I think part of the reason why Tony Gwynn is so revered is that he's the only all-time-great that stayed with the team for all or even most of their career.

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  7. All this time I thought the stats ended with ERA+, I never thought to hold my phone horizontally to see all the stats!

    Was there a microsecond where Ozzie Smith could have been on this team?

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  8. I have a feeling Soto will sign somewhere else once he reaches free agency...

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